The Ethically Immoral Podcast
The Ethically Immoral Podcast is a program dedicated to long-form conversations with poets, spoken word artists, authors, and creatives who use language as a tool for truth-telling, healing, and resistance. Hosted by Mike Payne, the show travels beyond the typical interview to explore the personal histories, artistic philosophies, and cultural contexts that shape the voice of the Creatives we welcome.
It’s not just about poetry or performance — it’s about the people behind the pen. We talk about identity, healing, joy, frustration, and the journey of becoming. Some moments are deep, others are funny, but all of them are authentic. If you’re someone who values storytelling, vulnerability, and good conversation, this space was created and cultivated for you.
The Ethically Immoral Podcast
Volume Four: Chapter Twelve - Our Conversation with Jolanda Malone
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In Volume Four: Chapter Twelve, we welcome North Carolina-based Poet, Writer, Life Coach, Animal Advocate, and Entrepreneur, Jolanda Malone.
Jolanda's non-profit organization Beartha was founded in January 2001 and named in honor of her grandmother Bertha. She says of living with her grandmother " growing up in the South Bronx we lived in a house that felt like a mansion. She always welcomed her home to neighbors , friends, families, people that needed help, and furry friends. She helped so many people get on their feet, rescued stray cats, and provided a safe haven that made people feel welcomed. Bertha means "Bright One" and she surely did Brighten my life and inspired me to make a community that Humans, Animals, and Nature will be important and can come together. This Non-Profit Organization is in Honor of her and how to left the world a better place than she found it".
She says that the core values of the organization is to L.I.V.E.:
Love: To Live a Life where you leave the world a better place than you found it through moving in LOVE
Inspire: We want to INSPIRE people to love their self and others
Visualize: To Visualize your dreams and goals and Know you are capable of leaving the world a better place than you found it.
Educate: To Educate the community on how they can leave the world a better place.
Connect with Jolanda:
Website: beartha.org
IG: @beartha919
Recorded spoken word performances in this Chapter include:
Ashley Lumpkin: Inheritance
IG: @lumplestiltizken
Website: lumplestiltizken.com
Twitter: @alump
Gabriel Ramirez: Whenever I Look Over My Balcony
IG: @ramirezpoet
Twitter: @ramirezpoet
Website: ramirezpoet.com
Summer Durant : Future not Fetish
IG: @summeraen
Website: summeraen.com
Twitter: @summera3n
Steven Willis: How The Hood Loves You Back
IG: @stevenantoinewillis
Website: stevenwillispoetry.com
Twitter: @stevenawillis
Ifrah Hussein: Tell Us
IG: @ifrahhussein
Twitter: @ifrahhussein_
Connect with, then listen and subscribe to the following podcasts we recommend:
The Words I Never Said podcast
IG: @gods_ink_spokenword
Life as We Grow It podcast
IG: @lifeaswegrowit
Twitter: @lifeaswegrowit
The Spoken World podcast
Twitter: @spokenpodcast
Website: thespokenwordpodcast
IG: @thespokenworld
Unspoken Words podcast
IG: @unspokenwordspodcast
Twitter: @beckythepoet
YouTube: Unspoken Words
Website: beckythepoet.com
Journey with Mpho podcast
IG: @journeywithmpho
Website: journeywithmpho.com
