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The Ethically Immoral Podcast
The Ethically Immoral Podcast is a program dedicated to long-form conversations with poets, spoken word artists, authors, and creatives who use language as a tool for truth-telling, healing, and resistance. Hosted by Mike Payne, the show travels beyond the typical interview to explore the personal histories, artistic philosophies, and cultural contexts that shape the voice of the Creatives we welcome.
It’s not just about poetry or performance — it’s about the people behind the pen. We talk about identity, healing, joy, frustration, and the journey of becoming. Some moments are deep, others are funny, but all of them are authentic. If you’re someone who values storytelling, vulnerability, and good conversation, this space was created and cultivated for you.
The Ethically Immoral Podcast
Volume Five: Chapter Thirteen - Our Conversation with Natalie Lim
In Volume Five: Chapter Thirteen, we welcome Poet, Writer, and Author of the poetry collection, “Elegy For Opportunity”, Natalie Lim.
Natalie Lim (she/her) is a Chinese-Canadian poet living on the unceded, traditional territories of the Musqueam, Squamish and Tsleil-Waututh Peoples (Vancouver, BC). She is the author of a full-length book of poetry, Elegy for Opportunity (Wolsak & Wynn, 2025) and a chapbook, arrhythmia (Rahila's Ghost Press, 2022). Winner of the 2018 CBC Poetry Prize and Room Magazine’s 2020 Emerging Writer Award, her work has been published in Arc Poetry Magazine, Best Canadian Poetry 2020 and elsewhere.
Contact Natalie:
Instagram: @natalielimwrites Threads: @natalielimwrites
Website: natalielim.ca Order Elegy For Opportunity
Recorded Spoken Word Performances Featured Include:
Timothy DuWhite – The Story of How He Happened
Instagram: @call.me.ugba
Threads: @saber.my.champagne
Denice Frohman – Accents
Instagram: @denicefrohman Website: denicefrohman.com
Kenneth Something – Rape Poem
Instagram: @kennethpoetry
Instagram: @kennethsomething
Mike Rosen – When God Happens
Instagram: @heymikerosen
Javon Johnson – Black and Happy
Instagram: @javonism
