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The Ethically Immoral Podcast
The Ethically Immoral Podcast is a program dedicated to long-form conversations with poets, spoken word artists, authors, and creatives who use language as a tool for truth-telling, healing, and resistance. Hosted by Mike Payne, the show travels beyond the typical interview to explore the personal histories, artistic philosophies, and cultural contexts that shape the voice of the Creatives we welcome.
It’s not just about poetry or performance — it’s about the people behind the pen. We talk about identity, healing, joy, frustration, and the journey of becoming. Some moments are deep, others are funny, but all of them are authentic. If you’re someone who values storytelling, vulnerability, and good conversation, this space was created and cultivated for you.
The Ethically Immoral Podcast
Volume Five: Chapter Fourteen - Our Conversation with Dream
In Volume Five, Chapter Fourteen, we sit down with Baltimore-based artist Dream—an educator, poet, writer, photographer, and meditation guide. In our conversation, Dream discusses her creative journey, releasing her spoken word pieces on streaming platforms, and talks about the influence that her family’s creativity has had on her. We dive into poetry, writing, the benefits of meditation, and the beauty of helping others. A conversation about art, presence, intentionality, and more.
Contact Dream:
Instagram: @dreamreallovec Threads: @dreamreallovec
Recorded Spoken Word Performances Featured Include:
Reagan Myers – Depression Is Funny Like That
Instagram: @reagancmyers
Imani Cezanne – Flowers
Instagram: @imanicezanne
Marshall Davis Jones – Touchscreen
Instagram: @marshalldavisjones
Website: tonalinfluence.com
Elizabeth Acevedo – A Love Letter To My Beloved
Instagram: @acevedowrites Website: acevedowrites.com
King Yaw – Ancestral Ghosts
Instagram: @kingyaw_
